Take That George W! Stimulus checks and law school debt

I got my stimulus check direct deposited this morning! And, I put almost all of it toward debt. Some to the church. No new big screen tv for us to help him prop up the failing economy (our big screen is working fine, thank you!). I know someone will now tell me that the only people suffering are average americans and even worse poor Americans and I get that.

What are you going to do with yours? Yes, you too can put it toward my school debt if you want. I learned yesterday that the new after the JD wave #2 data shows that 7 years after law school, most grads practicing law have $47,000 in school debt remaining and African-Americans have significantly more ($57,000 if memory serves). Sorry, that was incorrect — the average debt is $57,000 and African-American’s average is $70,000.

I have been out coming up on 10 years (well, 10 years since I finished the PhD — my law degree was actually 1996, come to think of it) and am not practicing law (therefore paying it back very slowly, but not making so little that I qaulify for forgiveness) and let’s just say I am average on this one.

By the way, I did save enough to purchase some metal bull testicles for Jeff’s birthday.

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10 Responses to Take That George W! Stimulus checks and law school debt

  1. lbsmom says:

    I’ll go in with you on those, LB. Good hostess gift for such generous Halloween parties, but please don’t splurge on the chrome ones. I vote for either red or blue for unstated reasons.

  2. laurabethnielsen says:

    at first I thought you meant the student loan payments. But you mean the bill balls (or truck nutz).

  3. nobamakoolaid says:

    I’m going to buy 109.090909 Guinnesses (or is it Guinnei, Jeff) at Nevins. I am all about stimulating myself and this economy. A true win-win. Go economics.

  4. nobamakoolaid says:

    Never mind, Jeff; I looked it up in my new handy-dandy Grammer Bible, by Michael Strumpf. Perhaps now I can at least be correct in form if not function.

  5. robertlnelson says:

    Actually the average debt after 7 years is 57k and for African-Americans it is 70k. But what is a few thousand among friends.

  6. laurabethnielsen says:

    So kool Aid – enlighten us — Guinnesses or guini? It didn’t really have the plural for that in it, did it?

  7. nobamakoolaid says:

    “With proper nouns ending in sounds that don’t blend well with s, the sibilant sounds, add -es.” Guinnesses it is.

  8. jeffaregularworkinglawyer says:

    I am so glad to see proper attention being paid to the interesting issue of irregular plural formations. “Guinness”, like other words that end with the “is [soft s]” or “us” sound, sounds like other words borrowed from Latin, like fungus and locus, which traditionally have taken the Latin form of plural. Joke formations like “Guinni”, or “Elvii” obviously play off the seeming absurdity of English’s retention of plural formations from classical languages.

    Since it’s impossible to violate Wikipedia’s copyright, here, in its long glory, is a very interesting excerpt on irregular plurals from Latin and Classical Greek from Wikipedia’s entry on English Plurals. I hope you all will enjoy it as much as I did.

    English has borrowed a great many words from Latin and Classical Greek. The general trend with loanwords is toward what is called Anglicization or naturalization, that is, the re-formation of the word and its inflections as normal English words. Many nouns (particularly ones from Latin) have retained their original plurals for some time after they are introduced. Other nouns have become Anglicized, taking on the normal “s” ending. In some cases, both forms are still competing.

    The choice of a form can often depend on context: for a librarian, the plural of appendix is appendices (following the original language); for physicians, however, the plural of appendix is appendixes. Likewise, a radio engineer works with antennas and an entomologist deals with antennae. Choice of form can also depend on the level of discourse: correctly formed Latin plurals are found more often in academic and scientific contexts, whereas in daily speech the anglicized forms are more common. In the following table, the Latin plurals are listed, together with the Anglicized forms when they are more common.

    * Final a becomes -ae (also -æ), or just adds -s:

    alumna alumnae
    formula formulae/formulas
    encyclopædia encyclopædias (encyclopædiae is rare)

    * Final ex or ix becomes -ices (pronounced [ɪˌsiːz] or [əˌsiz]), or just adds -es:

    index indices /ˈɪndɪˌsiːz/ or indexes
    matrix matrices /ˈmeɪtɹɪˌsiːz/
    vertex vertices /ˈvɜːtɪˌsiːz/,/ˈvɝtɪˌsiːz/

    Some people treat process as if it belonged to this class, pronouncing processes /ˈpɹɑsɪˌsiːz/ instead of standard /ˈpɹɑsɛsɪz/. Since the word comes from Latin processus, whose plural is again processus, but now with a long u (fourth declension), this pronunciation is without etymological basis.

    * Final is becomes es (pronounced [ˌiːz]):

    axis axes /ˈækˌsiːz/
    crisis crises /ˈkɹaɪˌsiːz/
    testis testes /ˈtɛsˌtiːz/

    Note that axes, the plural of axis, is pronounced differently from axes (/ˈæksɪz/), the plural of ax(e).

    * Final ies remains unchanged:

    series series
    species species

    * Final on becomes -a:

    automaton automata
    criterion criteria
    phenomenon phenomena (more below)
    polyhedron polyhedra

    * Final um becomes -a, or just adds -s:

    addendum addenda
    agendum agenda (agenda is now a common shortening for a list of agenda, and has its own plural, agendas)
    datum data (Now usually treated as a singular mass noun in both informal and educated usage, but usage in scientific publications shows a strong UK/US divide. U.S. usage prefers treating data in the singular in all contexts, including serious and academic publishing. UK usage now widely accepts treating data as singular in standard English, including educated everyday usage, at least in non-scientific use. UK scientific publishing usually still prefers treating it as a plural. Some UK university style guides recommend using data for both singular and plural use, and some recommend treating it only as a singular in connection with computers.)
    In engineering, drafting, surveying, and geodesy, and in weight and balance calculations for aircraft, a datum (plural datums or data) is a reference point, surface, or axis on an object or the earth’s surface against which measurements are made.
    forum fora/forums
    medium media (in communications and computers; now often treated as a singular mass noun)/
    mediums (spiritualists, or items of medium size etc.)
    memorandum memoranda/memorandums

    * Final us becomes -i (second declension, [aɪ]) or -era or -ora (third declension), or just adds -es (especially in fourth declension, where it would otherwise be the same as the singular):

    alumnus alumni
    corpus corpora
    focus foci
    genus genera
    prospectus prospectuses (plural prospectus is rare)
    radius radii
    viscus viscera

    Virus had no plural ending in Latin; the plural in English is usually viruses. See plural of virus.
    cactus cactuses/cacti (in Arizona many people avoid either choice with cactus as both singular and plural.)
    fungus fungi
    hippopotamus hippopotamuses/hippopotami
    octopus octopuses (note: octopi also occurs, although it is strictly speaking unfounded, because it is not a Latin noun of the second declension, but rather a Latinized form of Greek ὀκτώπους. The theoretically correct form octopodes is rarely used.)
    platypus platypuses (same as octopus: platypi occurs but is etymologically incorrect, and platypodes, while technically correct, is even rarer than octopodes)
    terminus termini/terminuses
    uterus uteri/uteruses

    Colloquial usages based in a humorous fashion on the second declension include Elvii to refer to multiple Elvis impersonators and Loti, used by petrolheads to refer to Lotus automobiles in the plural.

    * Final as in one case of a noun of Greek origin changes to -antes:

    Atlas Atlantes (statues of the hero); but
    atlas atlases (map collections)

    * Final ma in nouns of Greek origin can add -ta, although -s is usually also acceptable, and in many cases more common.

    stigma stigmata/stigmas
    stoma stomata/stomas
    schema schemata/schemas
    dogma dogmata/dogmas
    lemma lemmata/lemmas

  9. lbsmom says:

    LB, make sure you have lots of Guinnesses on hand for that meeting of these two! Otherwise, it could be sleep-inducing.

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